David Bain Guilty or Not Guilty

Dear Peg and Family,
For the last couple of weeks the Press, there has been a spate of interviews, articles regarding David Bain’s Trials. These are being pushed by David and his champion Joe Karam, as he has just put in a claim for compensation, and repayment for wrongful imprisonment. I may as well state my position too, up front. I consider that he is guilty. No amount of talk by Joe Karam or David, will convince me otherwise. But then again, I have also been the beneficiary of a lot of local ‘in put’ and have read full reports of the trial. As well ‘hearsay’ background from his family, many of whom live in Central Otago. As well I have worked with some of his extended family. True the family was dysfunctional to the extreme. And the mother Margaret seemed to have a religious mania, clearly she needed help or treatment.
David’s mother also was a Alexandra girl, and as mentioned, David has many family members living here in Otago. Another strange twist, was Robin Bain comes from the same area as Mark and he knows that side of the family well.
First things first. How do his family feel about the trial. Do they too, share the Courts verdicts for the horrific crimes? Further, initially did he get a fair trial? Well, for a start it is obvious the family don’t agree. Not one of his relatives turned up to support him in Court. In fact, the family were very upset that David’s defence were busy trying expand their scenario of what happened, that it was Robin, the father who carried out the crimes.
The defence said Robin, David’s father was a weak character, dirty, and drinking on the job, and in danger of losing his job as the Headmaster of Taieri Mouth School. If I had accepted this on face value, it could have coloured my thinking. However, I found out later that this was a straight out smear, as Wib Maxwell’s daughter, was on the Taieri School Committee. She said, ‘The committee was very happy with him as the headmaster’, all the innuendo and the defence statements were a complete fabrication’. Also background of David’s earlier life, showed that he was a nasty piece of work, evidence that would have helped to convicted him, was suppressed by the Judge. This trial was meant to be about Justice, and to get that, all should have been revealed. Some time back he had also plotted to carry out a rape, and was prepared to juggle the timing when he was on his News Paper Delivery. In doing this, it would have meant it was impossible to commit the rape. Time was a factor in this crime as well, and he had some twenty five minutes to rearrange evidence. Some years back ,there was also an incidence out at Hinton’s Orchard. The family were asked to remove David at the request of his employer, when he lost his temper and chased another employee with a knife.
They talk about Justice, and what I would like to know is. ‘How can David say that he is innocent of these crimes’, and not appear on the stand to explain his position. Without subjecting himself to a cross exanimation. He never uttered one word in his defence, in all of the weeks of the trial. Relying on his lawyers and Joe Karam to present his case. I don’t want to hear Joe Karam’s version of what happened, and how the father could have committed all the crimes. David sat impassive and silent for some weeks while all the evidence was minutely examined. The defence had an answer for everything, the blood stained clothing and socks. Oh, he changed those before he committed suicide.
One thing, small but pertinent, and that’s if Robin is a normal human being. His autopsy showed that when examined, his bladder was full. So you also want me to believe that if he is guilty of this crime, that he came into the house from the Caravan where he lived, and before anything else calmly went about the shooting every member of his family, before visiting the toilet. I think a visit to the toilet would have been one of the first of his actions. I know it would have been  for me.
There is a photo in the paper this morning of David and Joe Karam in each other’s arms both crying. Is this what they mean when they talk about crocodile tears? If they want me to believe David is innocent, then first, they had better get another candidate for the murders, other than Robin.
Love from Christchurch,
Wally
For the last couple of weeks the Press, there has been a spate of interviews, articles regarding David Bain’s Trials. These are being pushed by David and his champion Joe Karam, as he has just put in a claim for compensation, and repayment for wrongful imprisonment. I may as well state my position too, up front. I personally consider that he is guilty. No amount of talk by Joe Karam or David, will convince me otherwise. But then again, I have also been the beneficiary of a lot of local ‘in put’ and have read full reports of the trial. As well ‘hearsay’ background from his family, many of whom live in Central Otago. As well I have worked with some of his extended family. True the family seems to be dysfunctional to the extreme. And the mother Margaret  was controlled by a religious mania, she clearly she needed help or treatment.
David’s mother also was a Alexandra girl, and as mentioned, David has many family members living here in Otago. Another strange twist, was Robin Bain comes from the same area as Mark, and he knows that side of the family well. They were well thought of in the District.
First things first. How do his family feel about the trial. Do they too, share the Courts verdicts for the horrific crimes? Further, initially did he get a fair trial? Well, for a start it is obvious the family don’t agree. Not one of his relatives that I could see turned up to support him in Court. In fact, the family were very upset that David’s defence were busy trying expand their scenario of what happened, that it was Robin, the father who carried out the crimes.
The defense said Robin, David’s father was a weak character, dirty, and drinking on the job, and in danger of losing his job as the Headmaster of Taieri Mouth School. If I had accepted this on face value, it could have coloured my thinking. However, I found out later that this was a straight out smear, as Wib Maxwell’s daughter, was on the Taieri School Committee. She said, ‘The committee was very happy with him as the headmaster’, all the innuendo and the defence statements were a complete fabrication’. Also background of David’s earlier life, showed that he was a nasty piece of work, evidence that would have helped to convicted him, was suppressed by the Judge. This trial was meant to be about Justice, and to get that, all should have been revealed. Some time back he had also plotted to carry out a rape, and was prepared to juggle the timing when he was on his News Paper Delivery. In doing this, it would have meant it was impossible to commit the rape. Time was a factor in this crime as well, and he had some twenty five minutes to rearrange evidence. Some years back ,there was also an incidence out at Hinton’s Orchard. The family were asked to remove David at the request of his employer, when he lost his temper and chased another employee with a knife.
They talk about Justice, and what I would like to know is. ‘How can David say that he is innocent of these crimes’, and not appear on the stand to explain his position. Without subjecting himself to a cross exanimation. He never uttered one word in his defence, in all of the weeks of the trial. Relying on his lawyers and Joe Karam to present his case. I don’t want to hear Joe Karam’s version of what happened, and how the father could have committed all the crimes. David sat impassive and silent for some weeks while all the evidence was minutely examined. The defence had an answer for everything, the blood stained clothing and socks. Oh, he changed those before he committed suicide.
One thing, small but pertinent, and that’s if Robin is a normal human being. His autopsy showed that when examined, his bladder was full. So now you want me to believe that if he is guilty of this crime, that he came into the house from the Caravan where he lived,  calmly went about the shooting every member of his family, before visiting the toilet. I think a visit to the toilet would have been one of the first of his actions. I know it would have been  for me.
There is a photo in the paper this morning of David and Joe Karam in each other’s arms both crying. Is this what they mean when they talk about crocodile tears? If they want me to believe David is innocent, then first, they had better get another candidate for the murders, other than Robin.
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3 Responses to “David Bain Guilty or Not Guilty”

  1. Vic says:

    Great piece. Its so obvious isnt it? A guilty “man” free and an innocent one being crucified while not being able to defend himself!!!

  2. Tracy says:

    Here Here well written and all truth :-)

  3. Matt says:

    David had Stephen’s blood on his shorts, and on the front and back of his t-shirt. Did a grief-stricken David ride Stepen’s corpse like a rodeo bull, or was a fight more likely? I think know which scenario is more likely.